Minutes, IBIS Quality Committee 13 Jan 2009 11-12 AM EST (8-9 AM PST) ROLL CALL Adam Tambone * Anders Ekholm, Ericsson Barry Katz, SiSoft Benny Lazer Benjamin P Silva Bob Cox, Micron * Bob Ross, Teraspeed Consulting Group Brian Arsenault * David Banas, Xilinx * Eckhard Lenski, Nokia Siemens Networks Eric Brock * Guan Tao, Huawei Technologies Gregory R Edlund Hazem Hegazy Huang Chunxing, Huawei Technologies John Figueroa John Angulo, Mentor Graphics Katja Koller, Nokia Siemens Networks Kevin Fisher Kim Helliwell, LSI Logic * Lance Wang, IOMethodology Lynne Green * Mike LaBonte, Cisco Systems Mike Mayer, SiSoft * Moshiul Haque, Micron Technology * Pavani Jella, TI Peter LaFlamme Randy Wolff, Micron Technology Radovan Vuletic, Qimonda Robert Haller, Enterasys Roy Leventhal, Leventhal Design & Communications Sherif Hammad, Mentor Graphics Todd Westerhoff, SiSoft Tom Dagostino, Teraspeed Consulting Group Kazuyoshi Shoji, Hitachi Sadahiro Nonoyama Everyone in attendance marked by * NOTE: "AR" = Action Required. -----------------------MINUTES --------------------------- Mike LaBonte conducted the meeting. Call for patent disclosure: - No one declared a patent. AR Review: - Pavani rewrite 1.4 to allow IQ summary in separate file or in IBIS - Done - Moshiul draft new IQ check for reasonable C_comp for high speed - Done - Mike propose IBISCHK bug for 5.5.6 - TBD - Mike regenerate the TOC in 1.1ak - Done New items: Some people had trouble calling in AR: Mike look into MeetingPlace issues Bob: Some people might be watching the inauguration next week - We decided to hold the meeting anyway Moshiul's AR: - Mike showed email sent by Moshiul - Moshiul: For high speed, C_comp should include both input and output modes - This decision is up to the model maker - It makes more difference with large topologies - Mike: The mean value is never actually correct - David: How about commenting one out? - Lance: There are 4 split C_comp params - Has anyone tried that to see if it is different in input mode? - Mike: Not likely to disable the rails in input mode - David: IBIS needs a new C_comp keyword - Mike proposed using 3 commented out values: on, off, average - Pavani: On state is usually larger than off - David: Agree - David: If driving mode C_comp is larger, then we are leaving margin on the table when the model is used for input Next meeting: 17 Feb 2009 11-12 AM EST (8-9 AM PST) Meeting ended at 12:07 PM Eastern Time.